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TOPIC: I'll See Your Sump Pump, And Raise You A Drain

I'll See Your Sump Pump, And Raise You A Drain 13 years 2 months ago #16480

Typically sump pumps drain outdoors.  Most jurisdictions require that.  Every now and then I see one that does not.

Sometimes they drain into the sanitary sewer.  I don't know of any jurisdictions that allow this.  Maybe they did in the past.

Sump pumps are not supposed to drain into the sanitary sewer.  If everyone did that, during heavy or continued rains, the result might be an overload of the sewer system and general indoor flooding!  It's that, or one lucky house that gets the full load from all the others!  Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble.

This is one of two sump pumps in this house.  They had had a company by to install an indoor drain/sump system because of previous leaking into the house.

Draining this one away from the house in this case would not have been easy. They would have had to cut through a foundation wall and layer of brick on the exterior of that. Then the tubing would have had to be extended around a stair well on the outside in order to drain sufficiently away from the house.  Maybe they simply did not want to do that, and plumbed it like this.

In this case, the seller says that this pump was "grandfathered" and allowed to drain into the sanitary system.  It could be that the waterproofing company told them it was grandfathered.

I don't know about that.

There is some checking into it even now.

My report stated that the County needed to be asked about such "grandfathering..."

Well, at least they used purple primer!

My recommendation: When you see such an installation, check into it because it may not be allowed and your buyers would be inheriting a possible future problem.
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Re: I'll See Your Sump Pump, And Raise You A Drain 13 years 2 months ago #16494

Jay

I see a lot of sump crocks being used as garbage cans. I find more belongings in the crocks that are not supposed to be there.

The last one had a garbage can lid, bricks, rugs, insulation on top. It took me way to long just to clear the crap away.

I have a question. On this particular pump there was no downspout. So they did what Jay stated and ran it into the sanitary. My question would be is there a maximum distance the discharge piping can run. This one was close to 30/40 feet. 



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Re: I'll See Your Sump Pump, And Raise You A Drain 13 years 2 months ago #16613

If they are going to run these into the sanitation line, shouldn't they put a trap on them just to be safe(r)?  I mean if they are going to do it wrong, shouldn't they do it wrong the right way?  lol

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Re: I'll See Your Sump Pump, And Raise You A Drain 13 years 1 month ago #18993

I inspected a house on Sunday. The house is about 40 feet from a floodplain. The sump was bone dry and rust on the crock and pump; I expected to see water in there, especially being so close to the floodplain. I think the tiles are clogged.

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Re: I'll See Your Sump Pump, And Raise You A Drain 13 years 1 month ago #19017

On the house where I took this picture, the agent called the County who actually sent someone out to the house.  The sellers said this installation was okay because it was "grandfathered."  It was not!  The County made them totally replumb it.  They cut a hole in the foundation wall, plumbed it around a stairwell and had to drain it away from the house.  I bet it was $1000 to do all that...

Forty feet is not too long for a sump pump.  I see it all the time.

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Re: I'll See Your Sump Pump, And Raise You A Drain 13 years 1 month ago #19076

Grandfathered, using plastic plumbing??? Somebody's pulling somebody's leg!  ;D

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